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02/09/08

Breaking Laws and Natural Consequences

Posted by : Cindy Bodie in Older Child Adoption Blog at 05:28 pm , 378 words, 603 views  
Categories: Challenges

OK folks, I have several grown children who are either in jail or have recently been arrested. My friends, other adoptive parents, have found themselves in this predicament as well. As awful as my best friend’s grown kids are acting, at least none of those three have been arrested. That’s a major thing to be proud of in our world.

I’ve had two daughters get arrested this year. Parenting for 34 years before a daughter of mine ever crossed that line, I found myself twice with girls who’ve hit people. One is a 31 year old college graduate; the other is a 17 year old who’s been trying to drop out of high school for quite some time now.

We have an aggressive school social worker who used to be her volleyball coach plus a guidance counselor who goes to our church. Her best friend’s mother is a Probation Officer and then there’s me – a retired school library media specialist who place a great deal of importance on education.

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Still my 17 year old might win this battle. Her self-destructive, overly violent personality is working against her common sense and winning at the moment.

In our state, age 17 means adult jail not juvenile hall.

I will not bail these lawbreakers out. They got themselves in, they can get themselves out. I bopped on over to the county sheriff to make certain my tact was appropriate and he commended me on it, “We’ll take good care of them,” hoping also they’d learn a lesson.

With some of my sons, it’s taken a few repeat trips to the Graybar Hotel before they truly understand that nebulous concept of natural consequences.
One son has paid about ten thousand dollars in court costs, probation fees, fines and lawyer’s bills but it was the best money he ever spent. He’s 24 now, the father of a three year old, hard working and usually pleasant to be around. He’s the one my daughter called when she got herself out of jail the other day.

Trying to avoid the lecture from me, she heard it from a brother who’s been there, done that.

This is yet another reality in the adoption of older children.

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Comment from: Julia Fuller [Member] Email · http://special-needs.adoptionblogs.com/
You certainly cannot enable them by bailing them out and blowing off the seriousness of their actions. You can offer them your sympathy and let them know that you still love them. Hopefully then, they will learn a lesson and not repeat the mistake. It is hard to stand back and watch but you really can't do anything else except keep praying for them. You are a Great Mom, they are all so lucky that you came into their lives.
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
Helping someone make positive changes in their lives and bailing them out are definitely NOT the same thing. Keep pressing on!
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Comment from: condo-mom [Member] Email
Natural consequences are not easy for my husband and I. Case-in-point: today my son forgot his soccer shoes after repeated reminders to get all his gear together, and assurances from him that he had everything. My husband drove him home to get the shoes, and back again so he could play with his team. (He scored a goal and helped win the game !!) I worry that he will go through life expecting nice treatment like that -- and be very rudely surprised. Still, he does not come with the same sense of entitlement that my (adopted) daughter arrived with. When he receives appropriate consequences, he is not shocked and amazed, as she is -- somehow cause and effect make sense to him. I'm so concerned for my daughter in this area. -- Rachel
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Comment from: getting old [Member] Email
there is a attachment therapist locally who currently is sellig his program of no consequence parenting.. I'd really like to get your alls thoughts on that. He has set up 2 group home locally, collecting state and federal money, promises a 100% drug free cure of these kids, no consequence parenting.. you let them do whatever and then stop and cuddle and hold them when you are emotionally regulated.. any thoughts on this???

thankfully my much smaller group of children whom I adopted are on the whole doing well, except for one who has some major issues.. and yet I get faulted for his issues a lot.. (and he has only been here 7 of his 15 years...)

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Comment from: John [Member] Email
Hi Getting, there are issues where consequences are of no value, like FAS. There are other issues like ODD where the child needs consequences to continue even though he will do everything to try and convince you that it won't work. Good luck sorting out which group you are dealing with. The therapist would seem to be more belivable if he had some sort of sorting process to identify which kids would benefit from his therapy. I think all of us can identify with "...I get faulted for his issues a lot...". John
PermalinkPermalink 02/10/08 @ 13:49
Comment from: Cindy Bodie [Member] Email · http://older-child.adoptionblogs.com
Yes I truly believe we ALL get faulted for their issues. I'd have a difficult time with the 'no consequences' - my kids would run wild. They'd be frightened to, feeling as if no one was in charge. I believe that they prefer boundaries. Many have later told me that they were sure I truly cared since I never backed down from teaching them about behaviors, choices and consequences.
Rachel - I walk that tightrope also making a ton of judgement calls and executive decisions while flying by the seat of my pants.
Julia and Patti - Great points - I struggle with not enabling while still caring very much. It's hard.
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